Adam Savage and Fon Davis Discuss Working on Matrix

During their tenure at ILM, Adam and Fon Davis worked as model supervisors on the Matrix sequels. What was that like? Adam and Fon reminisce about the challenges and good times they experienced during that job -- and let's just say, laser cutting in 2002 was NOT what it is today!

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  1. Adam Savage’s Tested

    Adam Savage’s Tested

    پیش 19 روز

    Follow Fon and/or Fonco here:

  2. Len Harding

    Len Harding

    پیش 19 ساعت

    Are you telling me there was a hanger full of people like you two??? That would be so much fun!

  3. Ascallon


    پیش روز

    This was so much fun to watch. I say we need a full podcast with these kinds of interviews!

  4. DreamFactory Entertainment

    DreamFactory Entertainment

    پیش 3 روز

    Just a couple of ILM Alumni that are both a #MasterofSpecialEffects

  5. DreamFactory Entertainment

    DreamFactory Entertainment

    پیش 3 روز

    👍 (APPLAUSE)

  6. Mijc Osis

    Mijc Osis

    پیش 10 روز

    OMG Aerial demolition derby sounds amazing

  7. Fused Toast

    Fused Toast

    پیش 10 روز

    Please do more of these types of videos.

  8. Kaba


    پیش 10 روز

    Talks about the ammo box, no close up 🤷‍♂️

  9. el xero

    el xero

    پیش 10 روز

    Who originally wrote matrix

  10. Sophia Bogard

    Sophia Bogard

    پیش 11 روز

    R/C plane collisions is a sport. They have one of those at the local R/C club during their annual air show where people have these cheap RC planes and crash into each other until there is only one left in the air. It is a nice break up between these $10,000 monstrosities being shown off by people with money to burn.

  11. See More Toys

    See More Toys

    پیش 11 روز

    I've got one of the APU models. I bought it at Toys-R-Us years ago.

  12. ropersonline


    پیش 12 روز

    RC plane destruction derby? Heck, why not?

  13. Kayz!


    پیش 12 روز

    Wut? 'The Mummy returns' is still one of the most entertaining movies ever made!

  14. Durahl


    پیش 12 روز

    Man... I owned both the toy Sentinel _and_ the APU until the latter got knocked over and a shoulder joint irreparably snapped 😑

  15. P F

    P F

    پیش 12 روز

    I can't believe how boring this video is. It is fine that Adam and his old friend had their 10.5 minutes of memory lane but they failed utterly to speak about the APU and Sentinel models on the table in full-view of the camera!

  16. John Morgan

    John Morgan

    پیش 12 روز

    omg, this is my favorite Adam Savage Tested industry interview. By far. Would have enjoyed hearing this conversation go on longer.

  17. Christine LaBeach

    Christine LaBeach

    پیش 13 روز

    Faceted curves can be a problem in CAD designs and even show up in a 3D printed part of said CAD design.

  18. Nik Kaldobsky

    Nik Kaldobsky

    پیش 14 روز

    For a moment I thought the title was with "Don Davis", the composer of the films! Fon Davis did incredible work, wonderful video!

  19. Don Bradley

    Don Bradley

    پیش 14 روز

    Any chance you can add in clips of the movie showing what they did? That would be great! Hopefully no copyright issues.

  20. KM Crafting

    KM Crafting

    پیش 14 روز

    The cone technique is genius!

  21. iccarus 1975

    iccarus 1975

    پیش 14 روز

    interesting, i've been using CO2 lasers for nearly 20 years, liked hearing what issues you had back then, I never did, had a knack for just guessing the right power settings

  22. Dont talk to me

    Dont talk to me

    پیش 14 روز

    I remeber seeing Adam Savage in the bonus content for revelations years after it came out. I remeber thinking "hey that is Adam from mythbusters" haha

  23. Benjy Bronk

    Benjy Bronk

    پیش 14 روز

    Wow! I own both of these amazing Matrix pieces new and unopened in their original packaging! It was so hard for me not to open these as a teen when I got them for my birthday. If anyone is interested in buying them, you can leave a comment and I can get in touch with you!

  24. No Shave November

    No Shave November

    پیش 15 روز

    Looks boring as eff to make but the story behind it is inspiring.

  25. Paul Bearden

    Paul Bearden

    پیش 15 روز

    You found the proper solution to the facet of the curve issue. The only option is to make many small facets to appear as a curve. The reason is because it uses 3D models to cut, which are actually made of faceted triangles, even though a curve may appear smooth mathematically, in reality, it will always be faceted.

  26. Staples and Vine

    Staples and Vine

    پیش 15 روز

    More!, more!, more!...

  27. Spielen


    پیش 15 روز

    You just gonna leave a sentinel on the table and not talk about it?

  28. Roninblade


    پیش 16 روز

    Love how creators of props for the movies take pride even when the movies they worked on, aren't as good as the original!

  29. Jesse Small

    Jesse Small

    پیش 16 روز

    The faceted curves usually occur when the DXF you are building the cutpath from is the wrong format. Probably u want the R12 Natural or simmilar legacy format. Adobe based DXF files will always have this problem. Best to export the DXF from autodesk or rhino etc.

  30. I'm Hiding In The Shop

    I'm Hiding In The Shop

    پیش 16 روز

    The Matrix had Sequels? that sounds like a horrible Idea....

  31. Ironwind1972


    پیش 16 روز

    Has two incredibly fascinating models seeing on the desk and they talk about a piece of cardboard the whole time.

  32. Lets Go Flying

    Lets Go Flying

    پیش 16 روز

    just great. more more more.

  33. David Evens

    David Evens

    پیش 17 روز

    Large curves coming out as too coarse facets....OK, somewhere in the control software there's a hard-coded limit on how many facets a curve can be decomposed into, and it isn't high enough. That needed to be changed to a linear limit on maximum facet length. Better, whether it's facet numbr of facet length should be user controllable, and the number or length needs to be user controllable. (The suite of 3D design software I use includes OpenSCad, which has user control of the number of facets on an object as a feature. It's the simple way to make polygonal objects.)

  34. Don Beary

    Don Beary

    پیش 17 روز

    What a wonderful show .. priceless fun memories shared with us

  35. Daniel Zamora Rodríguez

    Daniel Zamora Rodríguez

    پیش 17 روز

    Ok maybe this is the best show ever. We need more hours of this two talking about things. Thanks

  36. Samuel S

    Samuel S

    پیش 17 روز

    As a figure collector, I am absolutely drooling over that Sentinel and APU

    • Sam Kimpton

      Sam Kimpton

      پیش 15 روز

      Those are toys released by McFarlane Toys. I have the Sentinel somewhere, but never bought the APU.

  37. AI Enyo

    AI Enyo

    پیش 17 روز

    I went to see Jurassic Park 3 in theaters. The projector projected the film burning up in its roll onto the screen during the opening credits, lol. It was very accurate to what I saw when they finally ushered us into another theater with film that was still in one piece...

  38. frollard


    پیش 18 روز

    We were 10 years late...our makerspace ran into exactly this - we inherited a laser cutter and trying to learn all the things you can do, and shouldn't do...and ways you can abuse the machine to get exactly what you want is an art in itself.

  39. cbc82


    پیش 18 روز

    I actually applauded for this. Great stuff.😍

  40. Plans Northeast

    Plans Northeast

    پیش 18 روز

    more please

  41. David SG Ferringer

    David SG Ferringer

    پیش 18 روز

    Good one boys.

  42. Gilly Monster

    Gilly Monster

    پیش 18 روز

    This is the kind of work I’d love to do. Something where years later, talking about it still excites me.

  43. Che Shreve

    Che Shreve

    پیش 18 روز

    This weekend there is a community of RC aircraft pilots that do a huge weekend of flying planes and home built aircraft. The channel is Flight Test, and at the end of it all they have a huge dogfight! You can watch the videos on their IRface channel.

  44. pedersenist


    پیش 18 روز

    That apu always reminds of the robot fighting suite in Dexter's Lab.



    پیش 18 روز

    Just saw on the bews that california is going to go on another lock down as the virus is getting worse even for people who have had the shot.

  46. Benjamin Brewer

    Benjamin Brewer

    پیش 18 روز the matrix scene with the gate crash they talk about in the end.

  47. Bwana


    پیش 18 روز

    These are some of my favorite

  48. oftenspanx


    پیش 18 روز

    It oughta be a crime that we weren't able to get a half-hour at least of these two reminiscing over their previous experience working on projects together. So enjoyable.

  49. Lizzam Abdul Latiff

    Lizzam Abdul Latiff

    پیش 18 روز

    A 36 feet long Hammer crashing though a 16 feet high Zion gate? WE NEED THAT BTS FOOTAGE!!!

  50. Kevin Oxtoby

    Kevin Oxtoby

    پیش 18 روز

    That has to be one of the best clips I have seen here for a long time. So many memories cascading from what most would look at and think it is a board with plastic stuck to it. Thank you for sharing.

  51. Daniel


    پیش 18 روز

    I love these and I imagine there's years of content you guys can cover. Please do.

  52. Ba55B01


    پیش 18 روز

    I live in Michigan, and while at a second-hand shop one day I came across The Matrix Reloaded on DVD, but it was the Russian version. For $2, I couldn't pass it up.

  53. Eirik Folkedal

    Eirik Folkedal

    پیش 18 روز

    Them talking about flight club and saying it should be a sport. Yeah, check out IRface channel Flight Test, they know a thing or two about crashing RC planes 😆

  54. Brad Mull

    Brad Mull

    پیش 18 روز

    I can only think the 14 dislikes are fans that didn’t like the film. Thank you for sharing this story. While the final product might not be the best, the work model makers do on films like this is amazing. I wish we had the cameras and archiving thoughts like we do now.

  55. DryerFryer


    پیش 18 روز

    Yes YES that needs to be a sport

  56. olsonspeed


    پیش 18 روز

    Flite Test has a demolition derby with hundreds of R/C planes simultaneously at Flite Fest.

  57. Jan Joska

    Jan Joska

    پیش 18 روز

    So much work for such a crappy movie

  58. Kairu Hakubi

    Kairu Hakubi

    پیش 18 روز

    I have left notes like that on a drawing to remind myself what the hue/saturation/etc change is to get from one thing to another

  59. Mojos Bigstick

    Mojos Bigstick

    پیش 18 روز

    Model makers don't grow up - they scale up!

  60. Peter Kelley

    Peter Kelley

    پیش 18 روز

    Fun video. keep them coming Adam!

  61. Grumpy Grobby

    Grumpy Grobby

    پیش 18 روز

    Great conversation!

  62. Ron Wingrove

    Ron Wingrove

    پیش 18 روز

    I now have two more goals in life. 1) I want an APU model, and 2) I really want to see the behind the scenes footage of that crash scene. A 36' "model" blasting through a 30' wide door? If they released a cinematic of that it would gross higher than M3.

  63. Edward Houlihan

    Edward Houlihan

    پیش 18 روز

    This was honestly beautiful to watch. Thank you both for sharing!

  64. Jamie Hudson

    Jamie Hudson

    پیش 18 روز

    I'd like to know more about the walker and the sentinel models. They look cool. I saw a few props here a few years ago.

  65. Aaron Shadwell Music

    Aaron Shadwell Music

    پیش 18 روز

    yeah! joy of making!

  66. phrayzar


    پیش 18 روز

    It's interesting what Adam said about working hard on bad movies. I worked for 12 months on matrix revolutions and reloaded, it was a very hard year and we all were looking forward to seeing them afterwards. It's always very disappointing to see that something that you put so much blood sweat and tears go bad like that. I could barely stand to watch Revolutions because I was so disappointed with it.

  67. Jose Zayas

    Jose Zayas

    پیش 18 روز

    This was honestly the most interesting conversation to be a part of. This video is awesome ❤️

  68. BigVig209


    پیش 18 روز

    Is your right arm okay, Adam?

  69. James Barisitz

    James Barisitz

    پیش 18 روز

    Those flying demo derbies sound hilarious! 👍

  70. TheRealCobraBurnout


    پیش 18 روز

    These are interesting vids with Adam and Fon. Fun to hear the behind the scenes movie magic and creativity. thanks

  71. Anthony Mcdonald

    Anthony Mcdonald

    پیش 18 روز

    Be fair to yourselves guys , Terminator iii was in no way the worst Terminator sequel , not even remotely close .

  72. Ann D-Vine

    Ann D-Vine

    پیش 18 روز

    ...I refuse to believe that both a Fon Davis and a Don Davis worked on the same movie

  73. Matthew Sinclair

    Matthew Sinclair

    پیش 18 روز

    Happy Birthday Adam!

  74. Too Many Hobbies

    Too Many Hobbies

    پیش 18 روز

    Another awesome episode!

  75. bob pod

    bob pod

    پیش 18 روز

    if you want to see what you can do with a laser cutter read

  76. LitlClutch


    پیش 18 روز

    These videos with Adam & Fon are great. Those models are SO cool.

  77. Michael Anthony

    Michael Anthony

    پیش 18 روز

    The matrix sequels get a bad rap.

  78. Johnny Bgood

    Johnny Bgood

    پیش 18 روز

    Happy Birthday Adam!

  79. Miles Nowak

    Miles Nowak

    پیش 19 روز

    I could literally listen to these 2 just talk about old times for hours and hours

  80. Stinky Ham

    Stinky Ham

    پیش 19 روز

    I'm glad they acknowledged that all those movies all thought they look really good (awsome SFX) are considered pretty bad overall.

  81. Mat Washington

    Mat Washington

    پیش 19 روز

    The stuff with Fon should be made into Podcasts, I could listen for hours to these 2 guys tell their stories!

  82. myeek


    پیش 19 روز

    I need more Fon & Adam.

  83. Old Scratch

    Old Scratch

    پیش 19 روز

    I think the faceting problem is inherent to how many cad programs render circles. From what I remember (and its been years since I've done this), you could zoom way in on a circle and see that it was made up of individual straight lines. I'm sure there is/was a way to make the program render a true curved arc. I think it just defaults to faceting b/c it takes less time and computing power. (I could be talking out of my ass here. I haven't touched AutoCad since 05-06 in high school.)

  84. Daniel Dulu

    Daniel Dulu

    پیش 19 روز

    I loved all three movies. Shove it if you don't like it.

  85. Audio Upgrades

    Audio Upgrades

    پیش 19 روز

    Great video, the best one with Fon, so far 👍

  86. wrorchestra1


    پیش 19 روز

    Happy Birthday Adam! 🎁🎉🎊

  87. Jeff Wilson

    Jeff Wilson

    پیش 19 روز

    In your defense, I like the Matrix sequels, The Mummy Returns, and Jurassic Park: The Lost World. I do agree Terminator 3 is a real bummer though.

  88. fossmonz


    پیش 19 روز

    Heres some behind the scenes footage of the hanger and models they're talking about.

  89. Preske


    پیش 19 روز

    Hey come on now. The mummy returns was pretty good (the Scorpion King CGI however, whoooooo boy). Especially since the 3rd exists :D

  90. Doesnt Work

    Doesnt Work

    پیش 19 روز

    Fun fact: here in Germany there are official contests which include potentially bringing down other plans to win. I didn’t find the exact names for them but i got told wild stories. Btw some build big planes with multiple motors for those events.

    • Claudio Gman

      Claudio Gman

      پیش 18 روز

      so was

  91. Daniel Strain

    Daniel Strain

    پیش 19 روز

    I think the sequels of Matrix were both great. Love them. Not sure why anyone has an issue with them.

  92. Karen Cerino

    Karen Cerino

    پیش 19 روز

    Happy Birthday Adam!!!

  93. Chris szostek

    Chris szostek

    پیش 19 روز

    You have mentioned Fon quite a bit over the years. It’s been fun watching you two reminiscing. All the best. -C-

  94. Robinson di Coca

    Robinson di Coca

    پیش 19 روز

    Happy birthday, Adam!

  95. forgotn1


    پیش 19 روز

    The videos with these two have been fantastic so far! I hope we get to see more videos like this where Adam meets up with other industry friends to talk about the work they did together.

  96. dan b

    dan b

    پیش 19 روز

    thank you! So interesting! I could listen to these two talk for DAYS!

  97. Dr.FranknMr.Stein


    پیش 19 روز

    More fon!!!

  98. lee marsh

    lee marsh

    پیش 19 روز

    Really enjoying these! Please get these guys doing a One Day Build !

  99. Brandon Nguyen

    Brandon Nguyen

    پیش 19 روز

    I got to be a location pa for matrix 4 when they were shooting in SF pre pandemic!

    • SillyMakesVids


      پیش 12 روز

      Were they nice?

  100. W Maru

    W Maru

    پیش 19 روز

    I never want this series with Fon to end